Sunday, January 21, 2007

Shoreline Christian Center

One of the biggest challenges in doing a project like I'm doing is not being judgmental. It's easy to talk about an experience when you feel the Spirit of God alive in the service. It's easy to describe a service in which you were personally moved, whether spiritually or emotionally. It's not easy to talk about a service in which you came away feeling the way I did today. As I stated before, some entries on this blog will end up being more about me than about the churches I visit. However, I will do my best to both describe my experience (for that's the only perspective I am fully qualified to speak from) and to describe the worship service at Shoreline Christian Center objectively.

I'll begin with the service. Shoreline Christian Center is one of several megachurches in Austin, claiming a membership of over 8000. I intended to take pictures of the outside of the building, but forgot to do it. However, you can take a virtual tour of the entire property online. When you enter the building, it can be pretty overwhelming, although there are multiple greeters at every door, blessing you, thanking you for visiting and offering assistance. They have their own Starbucks and also serve breakfast tacos there. The name of the Starbucks is...get this...Holy Grounds Coffee Shop. Yes, it's kind of hokey. Name aside, it's really a Starbucks, including using Starbucks cups and the regular items you see on their menu. There is also a full Christian bookstore, similar to what you would see in the mall - bibles, books, shirts, jewelry, CDs, etc. The walls are literally covered with advertisements for upcoming events, activities and information regarding the church. The place is vibrant, hectic and active.

The worship center is large. It has stadium seating as well as seating on the floor in a horseshoe shape around a stage where there is a full band and choir. Spotlights shoot out over the crowd and on the stage, multiple video screens are showing various band members and praise leaders as well as pictures and colors that match the mood of the music. It's all quite spectacular. This church leaves nothing to chance. For example, the entire service is carefully and deliberately choreographed to facilitate and drive the mood of the service. There is a time in which people can come forward for prayer. "Prayer partners" meet them (either at the front or in front of the high-rise seats) and ushers stand behind them with kleenex, ready to give them out to people moved to tears. The music during this time is quiet and the lights are low. Then, the spotlights come back up, shooting across the stage, then the audience and the music rises up to once again energize the service. We had commercials during a break in the service in which various activities and opportunities around Shoreline were shared. The pastor made a plea for money, talking about tithing and giving in general, especially to help with the ministry and building of their new building. He talked about how if you tithe, God will bless you, but seemed to imply these blessings would be earthly as well as heavenly (I think at one point he even said you would be rewarded with business contacts, but don't quote me on that - I could have it wrong).

The service had a theme related to joy. The music spoke of joy, the pastor's wife got up and gave a brief sermonette about joy and they even had a singer come up and sing Joy to the World (the Three Dog Night version, not the Christmas hymn). The sermon was the beginning of a series on joy. The pastor talked about how we should pursue joy and that it glorifies God when His people are joyful. He gave several examples from his own life and often drew from experiences with his father, wife and children. The impression I got from him is that Christians should demonstrate this joy all the time and, if not, God's very glory is at stake. There was an altar call at the end and people were invited to "invite Christ into their hearts" or re-dedicate their lives to Christ.

What was my personal experience? Well....not so good. First, I'm not a big fan of marketing God. However, I realize He's being marketed in our consumer-driven society all the time. Something about walking into a church and seeing a bookstore selling all kinds of "God paraphernalia" troubles my soul. Now, I'll be the first to admit that maybe I have the wrong idea about this. I'm sure there are perfectly good reasons to charge people for sermons and WWJD jewelry in a place set aside for the worship of God. I've seen bookstores in other churches and not been offended. However, when I walk in and feel like I've stepped into a marketplace rather than a place of worship, passages like John 2:13-16 come to my mind.

Second, the service itself felt more like a big "let's get happy" conference than church. Well, maybe it was more like a concert with a motivational speaker closing it. People are walking around, carrying their Starbucks cups, waving their arms about to the music, while the guy in charge of the music carries on like he's in concert. He often played up to the camera and dramatically flitted about, performing for the audience. The pastor actually has introductory music as he approaches the stage and people cheer for him. The service felt more like emotional manipulation than worship to me. Oh, we would occasionally "Give God a hand,", etc. but there was much more cheering for the performers than the One who created them. I do not think there was one moment in the service in which people aren't milling about, walking in and out of the service, and drinking coffee.

Personally, I felt someone was trying to manipulate me emotionally and because I wasn't buying, I didn't really get anything out of the service. Don't get me wrong. The service was quite impressive. It was extremely professional, well-choreographed and kept you entertained the entire time. I think that was the problem. It was entertaining more than anything. One person gave me a term that I think best describes it: worshiptainment.

What should you, the reader, do with this? Well, first, remember this is merely my experience and my opinion. I am only one person and this only reflects my experience at this church. In fact, there are thousands of people at Shoreline that will tell you I'm full of it, judgmental, etc. and that God does indeed move in the spirit and life of that church. I don't doubt it. The Spirit does move where and when He chooses. My opinion doesn't change that. Second, I am not a theologian, scholar, professional or expert on how church should be conducted. That is between God and His people. I am merely a person who wants to understand and see how God moves among His people. Unfortunately, I appear to have a blind spot when it came to this weekend at Shoreline. I don't get it.

Lastly, if you enjoy a church that is exciting, entertaining, has an excellent speaker for a pastor and gives you a mini contemporary Christian concert each Sunday, this may be the place for you. Like I said, the service was impressive. It is amazing, in a sense. I just hope and pray my impressions are wrong and that the people of Shoreline are right where God wants them. It does reinforce, for me, the belief that we all worship in different ways and take things away from services differently. That's one of the great things about this journey in Austin. I may have gotten nothing from this experience, but quite a number of people dedicated themselves to Christ today at Shoreline. Maybe there's something there for them that just isn't meant for me.

19 comments:

My wife tells me I'm handsome said...

Let me start out by saying, "I love Shoreline." And it does sadden me that a person would walk into our environment and not see God. We do facilitate church in a way that may be different from some but that's one of the things that makes the body of Christ beautiful. Since God made so many different people there are so many different worship experiences. The blog I feel is fair. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And I appreciate your encouragement for people to "check it out themselves." I simply write to share you did not express some other things which make Shoreline, in my opinion, very unique and God glorifying.
First, have you ever been to a church as racially diverse as Shoreline. There are blacks, whites, Asians and Hispanics all lifting their hands in praise to God together. There are blue collar and white collar people. There are young people and old people. And all these folks call Shoreline home. This is a special thing God has done in this church and I pray it can happen more often in our community. Did you see the homeless people who were in the seats? Did you see them welcomed with open arms? Not with sympathy but with love because they make us who we are..."A Big God family" as Pastor Laura says.
Secondly, did you talk with the people? That's what makes Shoreline special. We are a church family. WE ARE NOT PERFECT :) But what family is...every week we take time to not only hear prayer requests but cry out to God on behalf of each other. We hug and hold hands and cry as we pray for cancer and kids and jobs. We ask for God to intervene in people’s lives like he loves to do. That's what the "prayer partners" are all about. It is one of my favorite parts of our gathering.
And I can promise you, our pastor is as far from the "gimme money" type preacher as you'll meet. We sincerely try to never pressure or condemn anyone. It's not the way God is and it's not the way we believe a church should be led.
I know the series he began the week you came is on Joy but you missed the 8 week series on love where are pastor cried tears from the pulpit because he wants to be a man that loves God and loves humanity with authenticity and passion. He has continued to proclaim from the stage "there is one star in this city and His name is Jesus." When asked by some to pick sides and choose churches..."we are just the supporting cast in Jesus' story" is our pastor's response. This guy has a heart of gold...he is far from perfect but that what makes him a man worth following. He is vulnerable, teachable and honest.
What hurt me about the blog is I feel it put us in a group of churches that care more about glitz and glamour than the gospel. The tone of the note left me feeling like we are not authentic. And we are not perfect at a lot of things but one thing we do is try with all our power to bring God glory in every gathering we have. We try with all our might to create an environment where God can touch the hearts of his people. And if you felt manipulated, I am so sorry. All we want to do is help people get in the best possible position to fall more in love with Jesus and each other. That's the bottom line reason we exist.
We'll look at the lights and make sure we are not putting off the air of concert instead of worship. But my friend if you could just sit and talk with the people I have a feeling you would have left realizing God is present. Lights and stadium seating do not make this church or any church...it's the people. Who knows where technology will take us but we know it is still all about God getting glory through His children. It’s still all about receiving, returning and releasing God's love.
I thank you for your insight my friend but I humbly challenge the assessment. I ask for your prayers as we seek with all our heart to see "his kingdom come and his will be done in Austin and the earth as it is in heaven."

Syler said...

Dear "my wife tells me i'm handsome":

I don't think you have helped convince Scott by pointing out that the pastor cried during his sermon. Some would call it passion; others manipulation. Second, you should read his first blog about visiting St. James Episcopal? Sounded pretty ethnically diverse to me.

Scott: you've done a great job of commenting without judgment; just giving your reaction. I'll keep coming back to hear your responses. I hope you can check out the Episcopal church in Bastrop, which I think is where author and priest-to-be Greg Garrett is right now. ~Syler

Scott said...

Thank you for your comments regarding your own experience at Shoreline. I'm glad to see that others find the services there to be a blessing.

Anonymous said...

I have some questions:

Is it wrong or not worshipful for God to be entertaining?

What is a church supposed to feel like?

Why should I expect to find my relationship with God at a church?

Okay, they are mostly rhetorical, but they are what I was left wondering after reading your post.

Scott said...

Although they are rhetorical, I'll be glad to respond.

"Is it wrong or not worshipful for God to be entertaining?"

God can be entertaining if He wants.

"What is a church supposed to feel like?"

As I stated on my blog entry, I am not a theologian, scholar, professional or expert on how church should be conducted. That is between God and His people. Frankly, I don't think I'm qualified to answer that question, regardless of whether or not it is rhetorical. I am only qualified to share my own experience.

"Why should I expect to find my relationship with God at a church?"

You should expect to experience your relationship with God in all areas of your life.

Anonymous said...

I just want to say that I am extremely impressed with what you are doing here, and how careful you are to be fair, honest, and non-judgemental in your assessments. I have just read several of your reviews and think your site is extremely informative and that you are providing a wonderful service. Thank you! I feel very blessed to be able to say that I am actually a member of one of the churches you gave a glowing review, but I have attended Shoreline and left feeling much the same way you did. I wish I'd known about this site when I was searching for a church, and appreciate the service you are providing to others who may be in the midst of their own search right now. Although Shoreline is not for either of us, someone looking for that kind of church environment will know exactly where to find it thanks to you.

Anonymous said...

Scott-
I enjoyed reading your posts. When I was married in 1998, we set out to search for a church in the Austin area. My wife grew up in a church like Shoreline and I grew up in a church of Christ, where we did not have musical instruments. It was fun agreeing on worship styles. We visited Shoreline, yet I was prepared for the experience from going to Christ for the Nations in Dallas. It was an interesting journey learning about each others convictions, beliefs and opinions. We settled most of our disputes through scripture and grace. We finally found a church to call ours on Easter of 2001. You have written about the Church and I appreciate your candid comments. Each Christian church reaches different people. I am glad he made us different and offers different denominations for different seasons of our lives. I believe in being able to explain your hope and reasons for your convictions, beliefs and opinions. May we be able to live out our convictions, stand up for our beliefs and provide grace for our opinions.

Anonymous said...

Dear Anonymous and Scott,

I really like what you (Anonymous) had to say and I agree. I would like to touch on one statement of yours:
"I am glad he made us different and offers different denominations..."

Having lived as a "Christian" for 25+ years and being deeply involved in a variety of churches (including Shoreline), I have finally secured a realization that I wished I would have come to earlier: Though God made us all unique and we all have different seasons in our lives, God did NOT create different denominations for us. We (humans) did that. And while I'm sure you didn't really mean anything like that, this just shows how deeply this thinking is ingrained in our collective subconscious. And I think it's important that we all realize that Jesus did NOT create religion and its varying denominations. And for too long we have been pressured, if even unintentionally, by churches of all creeds to become disciples of the church...not disciples of Jesus himself. The name "Christian" implies that we are students/disciples of Jesus' teaching, and that we conduct our lives according to the same....

But, unfortunately, we have come to form our lives around so many beliefs...that we have neglected the actions that Jesus taught. We are taught to go to church, say the right things, dress the right way and above all...be sure to believe the right things. This is tragic, because in focusing on all these beliefs, we often miss the bigger picture.

I am finally in a place where I can say I'm really trying to just follow the teachings of Jesus. But I've got tons of junk from past Christian institutions that I'm balancing out (and cancelling out)with his teachings. And while I attend church, it is currently within a small group of fellow seekers, from various denominational backgrounds, who are just trying to focus their thinking on these teachings, as given by Jesus himself, not as interpreted through any denominational/institutional lense. (And of course...that's OUR interpretation and it could be wrong too. I'm willing to admit that.)

I now simply try to love and encourage everyone to, instead of trying to believe all the right things...just do the right things. Instead of worrying whether or not we'll make it to the great escape called Heaven, let's try to help God's intentions become a reality here on earth, now, "as it is in heaven." Like Jesus taught, "the kingdom is here, now." ...Or at least it CAN be. (No, I'm not a Jehova's Witness.)

Sorry for the soapbox, I just wanted to pitch in my 2,000 cents.

Scott, if you'd like more info about this new church in which I'm involved, let me know. And I apologize in advance: We have no spotlights, choreography, or even a stage with which to entertain.

Anonymous said...

I appreciated your post about Shoreline. I have a similar impression of the church, but I understand why someone who calls Shoreline home would be saddened and feel misrepresented by your post. That said, I want to add that I was a middle school teacher for a number of years (now a stay at home mom). Middle school is a difficult place to see Christ, even in the lives of believing students. I once had a student from Shoreline (perhaps the only one ever, because the school I worked at was a considerable distance from Shoreline) who reflected the love and joy of Christ more than any other student who ever came through my classroom. While I am not attracted to Shoreline's "style", I am confident they are sharing and preaching the Gospel, and that's really the gold standard for me.

Anonymous said...

Keith-

I agree that man has created a bunch of denominations. However, God has allowed it.
I did not mention my church because I did not want to come across as "this is the correct church" I am married and have a kid and the church I attend has an awesome kids program and solid teaching that I agree with most of the time. I share the same convictions but not all the beliefs. A church has to give some sort of Belief statement in order to offer unity. Your church seems to have a belief statement and it offers unity. I hope fellow believers pray for the Spirit to help them interpret scripture. If one does not agree with the church's teaching on a matter, then see if that is a conviction, belief or an opinion. As you, I do not like being spoon fed my theology, and that is why I like my church. They encourage us to study, meet in small groups, start Bible Studies at work, live life as a disciple of Christ, serve, etc. Coming from my background, I was very critical. Everything was a conviction and grace was not allowed on any other opinion than the The Church's theological stance on worship style, worship times, communion frequency etc. I am intentionally staying away from Hot Topics...but you get my meaning. Sometimes it is just easier to say, I am a Baptist or a Lutheran, or an Assembly of God, than to explain why you align yourself with 90% of that denomination's creed. I guess the problem comes in when people pride themselves on being from that denomination more than they humble themselves for what Christ finished on the Cross and raised Himself from the dead. I used to feel prideful because of the frequency of how often I took communion versus what Christ did on the Cross for us all. I used to be more critical of people because of their imperfectness versus seeing the righteousness of Christ reflected in their life. Our plumb line is Christ and not each other...but it helps to hang around people that apply a Christ-like walk better than ourselves...like a mentor..

I know several people that go to Shoreline...as other churches, they have people that LOVE the Lord and just radiate it in their daily lives. Then their are some people that lift Him up on Sunday and turn Him off the next day...I am not just saying Shoreline, I am saying all churches have people like this. And hopefully, God will reach those Luke warm people in all the Churches, like he reached me, and pull them in so tight that you could not imagine choosing ignorance over His Love. I love Jesus!! Thank You for saving my soul. Thank You for not spewing me out... = ) Thank you for being slow to anger.
John 13:35
" By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."

Anonymous said...

To the author of this blog,

It doesn’t seem to me that you were in search of an experience or connection with God and my Lord and Savior. You were looking to critique and find something wrong and that’s just what you got. Seeing how there is no such thing as a perfect church regardless of its size, what “church hoppers” fail to realize is that it is not about the walls, the décor, or even the atmosphere more than it is the body of Christ. What makes the body of Christ are the believers that regularly attend—the family—the family in which you were too busy overlooking in order to take your notes to even notice. That joy, peace, love and kindness that you received from the greeters, clergy and worship team should have been evidence of the fruit of the Spirit.

GAL 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,

You discovered nothing about this church but the atmosphere, which in your own words, was pleasant. What you should have been looking to depict in your blog was why it was so pleasant. Perhaps one day, you will get connected with the body of Christ and not solely for the purpose of developing a news column. I forgive you for talking about my family of believers and I am going to pray that God will move you to discover what He’s REALLY about. Then and only then will you discover what Shoreline is REALLY about. Be blessed, my friend.

LEV 19:16 “'Do not go about spreading slander among your people.”
11:9 with his mouth the godless destroys his neighbor, but through knowledge the righteous escape.
EPH 4:29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.

Scott said...

Thank you for your comments. As I said earlier, I'm glad that others find the services at Shoreline to be a blessing.

Anonymous said...

The way you perceive it, is how you shall receive it.

Anonymous said...

I left Shoreline a long time ago after attending there from 1993 - 2002. I loved the Church when it was on Parkfield and Rutland Drive, it was not too big and not too small, just the perfect size. It began growing too large around 1998 and lost its "happiness" you could say. I would feel great when service was over, walk out the doors of the sanctuary and into a TON of unhappy faces. I also couldn't stand anymore all the people who would keep getting up and walking around during the service. Also, when they began their school they said applications for teachers could be gotten at the front. When my wife (who has a Doctorate in Music) and I went to get an application for her, they asked us what she was applying for. When she said Music, they said "well, we already have someone we know who will be teaching music". I was flabbergasted. My reply was "have all your buddies taken all the positions so far?" and walked away and never went back to stuffy old Shoreline.

Anonymous said...

Don't Get Too Relevant

The Church Marketing Sucks blog takes a weekly poll. Last week's question was, "What is the number one thing that would make you leave your church?" The slight majority of roughly 300 voters said, "The church foresakes traditions of Scripture for relevance."

There's no way to know the demographic of the voters here, but judging from the forum and the profile pics on most of those who participate in their Church Marketing Lab on Flickr, it's probably safe to say they're mostly tech-savvy, artistic, twenty-somethings. Not the crowd we may normally think of as the, "We don't need a Starbucks; this is a church!" voices.

Of course that's not what these voters are saying, but it is interesting to note that while design may be the most powerful force a local church has to either attract or deter young adults (the population segment that generally feels the most rejected by the Church), even they would have you be a church before they'd have you be a community center.

Yes, you need a relevant facility for your ministry, but this may be further evidence that you first need to discover the vision/purpose for your minsitry. Yes, third place is important and will help you reach the unchurched in your community, but take care not to get so caught up in espresso that the sermon suffers.

Wildesign Group Architects
1095 Pingree Road, Suite 216 Crystal Lake, IL 60014
Friday, June 8, 2007
http://wildesigngroup.blogspot.com/2007/06/dont-get-too-relevant.html

Anonymous said...

I went to Shoreline for 2 years. I had served in the childrens, youth, and homeless ministries. I was also a teacher across the street. Those homeless people you asked Scott to meet, we would bring them to church. Nobody cared about them, accept those very few that were apart of the Shoreline house.

One of the main things that is important about a church is that it is not the Pastors job to give you a relationship with Jesus that you do on your own time.

Those smiles that people say are genuine on everyones faces are as fake as a plastic tree. I know most of those people personally. The reason why alot of the sunday groups and other groups have so few people is because there is so much gossip. I used to go to the mens ministry and actually watched as one of the "worship leaders" was about to start a fight. Ive had most of the pastors children for students and Junior High students and they were some of the worst children I had.

A pastor should be teaching directly out of the bible according to the bible. The only message you will ever hear at Shoreline is about grace and love. Plus its all read out of "the message" bible. If a church has never given a convicting sermon then its not a real church.

Another thing is about the tithing and giving, There is a whole seperate sermon on just giving and how God will give you brand new cars and all that jazz. God does not give you the fleshly desires of your heart, but the Godly desires of your heart which is him.

Anonymous said...

Jason and Kim - I experienced much of the same plastic smiles and fakeness. Couldn't stand it and left in 2005. tried to go for a communion recently and between the glam chick sitting behind me talking the entire service including during the time we were taking communion and texting on her phone and all the people walking around the entire service, got nothing out of it. Sad. I won't return again. It's really nothing more than a social club. There is no Jesus to be found.

He's still working on me! said...

Thank you Scott for your website! I used to attend Shoreline also! I went from 1993 to 2002. I left for TBI (Texas Bible Institute)in 1998 and returned in 1999! I absolutely adorded Shoreline when it was Christian Faith Center on Rutland and Parkfield! Youth Group was awesome with Trey and Brenda! Jerry was leading praise and worship! And serving there felt like the best thing in the world! As CFC made their transition from CFC to Shoreline, it was as if it began to lose its true identity in Christ! People started getting "fired" on staff for no apparent reason, money started being requested outrageously, and the name change for the church came! To me when a church changes its name there needs to be questions asked! I still LOVE the people that are at shoreline however I question the actually church now and what it has become! I thank God people still answer altar calls there but pray that their relationship is rooted in the word of God and not a man of God! To those saying that the writer of this blog went with the intention to find something wrong it does not sound like it at all! Remember first impressions say alot! I loved the way he said that if the church feels like a marketplace then there is something wrong and too many churches have sadly fallen into this! Who needs a STARBUCKS in their church!!!!?????? Get your lazy butt up drive to starbucks and get one OUTSIDE of the church BEFORE church begins! Ok that was just my opinion and thank you for this blog! I miss Austin!

Scot with one T said...

Scott (with two Ts),

Thank you for your blog. I began reading when you did the Calvary South Austin. I just today stumbled upon the Shoreline post.

I attended Shoreline from its Parkfield days as Christian Faith Center. Worship was led by the great Jerry Caldwell from behind his Hammond B3. I was one of two bassists.

My wife and I served in many of its volunteer ministries; it was a church we understood and believed in. We followed it to its current location on Shoreline drive.

Sadly, it didn't take long for us to begin having the experience you communicated in your post. Side ministries (such as marraige seminars and divorce-recovery) began charging fees and requiring purchases. We were concerned. But when an associate pastor delivered a sermon that I recognized straight from an Amway convention I had once attended, we prayerfully and quietly stepped away.

I have recently visited their website and saw that the men's ministry is in full swing and they have begun many outreaches I had hoped for. Bravo.

We continue to pray for Shoreline and sincerely hope those attending have found the Lord and their church home. God bless you Scott (with two Ts), Shoreline, and Austin.